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Post by vinay on Sept 24, 2021 11:44:09 GMT -5
Hi Jeff/Admin, I am using cernox CX-1030CU-HT1.4L. The temperature controller I am using is Oxford instruments ITC-503. I have connected four wires of Cernox I+, I-, V+, V- to the ITC-503 connections. What I understand because cernox is a semiconductor type resistor, I made connections such that V+ of cernox is connected to the input low of ITC-503 and V- of cernox is connected to the input high of ITC-503 (opposite to the metal resistors). I have loaded the calibration curve profile in the memory of ITC-503. But even after loading the curve , there is a significant error in the temperature reading.
My question is about the excitation voltage because calibration report says that excitation voltage is +-2mV but my ITC-503 is supplying around +-6mV. Is this excitation voltage good enough to measure the temperature? or Is there anything wrong with my connections.
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Vinay
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Post by Lake Shore Jeff M on Sept 24, 2021 13:17:47 GMT -5
Vinay,
You do not say exactly what the difference is so it is hare to determine what may be causing the issue. I have some questions: 1. What curve did you load into the Oxford Controller 2. Are you only using 2-wires for the connection or does the Oxford controller use the 4-wire concept? 3. What is the serial number of the sensor 4. What is the room temperature resistance of the sensor? 5. Does the Oxford controller offer the reversing option?
Since we do not make the Oxford controller, I do not know how it works so I cannot tell you if you are connected correctly or not.
The recommended excitation voltage for a CX-1030-CU-1.4L sensor is 10mV. We calibrate a large numbers of sensors at the same time, therefore we excite the sensor at a much lower excitation voltage than the recommended value to eliminate any possibility of heating due to the sensors.
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Post by vinay on Sept 24, 2021 17:09:05 GMT -5
Hi Jeff, Thank you for your reply.
1.) I have loaded the calibration curve resistance Vs temperature supplied by lakeshore. 2.) I am using 4 wire connection. Oxford ITC has the 4 wire configuration I+, I-, V+ and V-. I have connected the V+ of Cernox to the V- of Oxford ITC because manual says that for semiconductor resistors connection should be reversed. 3.) X152135 is the serial number of the cernox. 4.) Room temperature resistance of the senosr written in the manual is 36.63 ohms. But the resistance measured using multimeter between I+ and I- is 61.2 ohms and between V+ and V- is 59.2 ohms. 5.) What do you mean by the reversing otion? I don't get it.
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Post by Lake Shore Jeff M on Sept 25, 2021 13:25:15 GMT -5
Depending on what temperature your sensor is at, what you are measuring on your multimeter is close to what you will see when making a 2-wire measurement using a multimeter. Each of the 36" long leads adds approximately 10 - 11 ohms so if the sensor is at 36+ ohms and each lead is 10+ ohms, your 59-61 ohm reading is close. To determine exactly how much lead resistance will be added you can measure I+ to V+ and I- to V-, add the result together and then divide by 2. That amount will be added to the resistance of the sensor when making a 2-wire measurement. Can you display the sensor value on the Oxford Controller to see what it is reading?
Reversing is a feature offered on Lake Shore controllers that reduce EMF build up in the leads. When reversing is active, the excitation current is reversed with every other measurement. When this is not an option, EMF build up can cause the readings to be higher than it should be.
Let me know what temperature you are seeing on the Oxford controller and what calibration table you used to enter the resistance versus temperature in the controller.
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Post by vinay on Sept 27, 2021 9:22:42 GMT -5
Hi Jeff, Thank you for your detailed reply.
Our Oxford ITC-503 controller does not have this reversing option. Is it possible that due to this EMF build up, my temperature readings are off from the calibration curve?
You are right multi meter leads are adding up with the resistance of cernox. Thanks for this clarification.
After loading the calibration curve X152135.dat, my controller is reading 305K at room temperature. Oxford ITC has an option to load the calibration curve in its memory. For cernox resistor (semiconductor resistor), ITC-503 is working in the conductance mode.
One thing I want to know, because ITC-503 requires some offset correction using the decade resistance box even after loading the calibration curve but I don't have the decade box and I can only supply the near values of resistance (not exact), so is it possible that those exact value of resistance are required to simulate the correct curve of cernox?
Thanks
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Post by Lake Shore Jeff M on Sept 27, 2021 10:47:02 GMT -5
In order to interpolate the correct temperature, the exact sensor value needs to be used. Controllers measure the resistance and then interpolate the temperature by doing a straight line interpolation between the adjacent curve points to what was measured. If the resistance used for the interpolation is not correct, the interpolated temperature will also not be correct.
Exactly what is teh temperature difference in the reading on the Oxford controller versus what you believe the temperature is?
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Post by vinay on Sept 27, 2021 11:38:36 GMT -5
Oxford controller is reading 305K but we are working at 293K. So I am assuming reading should be close to 293K.
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Post by Lake Shore Jeff M on Sept 27, 2021 12:01:03 GMT -5
Basically, the difference between the resistance at 305 versus the resistance at 293 is less than 1 ohm. At 305K, the sensor would be at 36.27 Ohms and at 293K it would be 37.15 Ohms so you do need to adjust the Oxford for any offset to get an accurate reading.
Lake Shore controllers are calibrated and do not require any offset adjustments when sensors are connected.
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Post by vinay on Sept 30, 2021 11:57:50 GMT -5
Hi Jeff,
I have figured out the correct values of resistance. Now my cernox resistor is working fine and exactly matching with the calibration curve.
Thank you for your continuous support.
Regards Vinay
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Post by Lake Shore Jeff M on Sept 30, 2021 13:10:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the update Vinay
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